Comments on: Posthuman – Connected http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/2011/11/08/posthuman-connected/ MSc in E-learning at the University of Edinburgh Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:02:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Daniel Griffin http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/2011/11/08/posthuman-connected/#comment-224 Daniel Griffin Sun, 20 Nov 2011 13:32:52 +0000 http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/?p=12147#comment-224 Great post Austin, Your comments about the Teddy bot remind me about allot of the current robotics work in assistive / nursing aids. Its an especially hot topic in Japan where there is a large aging population with less and less humans choosing to work in nursing. I did some searching and found this video but I know there are many other projects in the works, from robotic / intelligent houses right the way through to robots that can carry people to bed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJonPMa4Lic Great post Austin,
Your comments about the Teddy bot remind me about allot of the current robotics work in assistive / nursing aids. Its an especially hot topic in Japan where there is a large aging population with less and less humans choosing to work in nursing. I did some searching and found this video but I know there are many other projects in the works, from robotic / intelligent houses right the way through to robots that can carry people to bed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJonPMa4Lic

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By: Austin Tate http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/2011/11/08/posthuman-connected/#comment-180 Austin Tate Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:01:04 +0000 http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/?p=12147#comment-180 Geraldine, Jeremy's readings will certainly give us all plenty to do to while away those idle hours. Geraldine, Jeremy’s readings will certainly give us all plenty to do to while away those idle hours.

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By: Geraldine http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/2011/11/08/posthuman-connected/#comment-179 Geraldine Wed, 16 Nov 2011 23:14:58 +0000 http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/?p=12147#comment-179 Hi Austin, Thanks for pulling out and distinguishing between the individual focussed cyborg reading of posthumanism and the community oriented interconnected web of human and non human as intertwinned and codependent reading of posthumanism. I have only just begun wading my way through the posthuman readings and found a new term today that perhaps encompasses the later - the cognisphere. Thanks also Jeremy for revealing that there is yet another reading of posthumanism - I now have some hooks on which to hang my wanderings through the literature :) Hi Austin,

Thanks for pulling out and distinguishing between the individual focussed cyborg reading of posthumanism and the community oriented interconnected web of human and non human as intertwinned and codependent reading of posthumanism. I have only just begun wading my way through the posthuman readings and found a new term today that perhaps encompasses the later – the cognisphere.

Thanks also Jeremy for revealing that there is yet another reading of posthumanism – I now have some hooks on which to hang my wanderings through the literature :)

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By: Jeremy Keith Knox http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/2011/11/08/posthuman-connected/#comment-151 Jeremy Keith Knox Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:49:18 +0000 http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/?p=12147#comment-151 Excellent points raised here, which I think highlight some of the inconsistencies in the way that the term 'posthuman' is used. I think the posthumanist literature can be categorised into three (loose!) areas, which I would say differ quite radically in their underlying philosophical implications, and of course their use of the term. The 'cyborg/transhuman' strand, in which we might include Haraway's cyborg manifesto, but in which we could certainly include the work of Nick Bostrum and Andy Miah. I would definitely agree with some of the comments here that the transhuman use of the term 'posthuman' can be very human-centric, emphasising technology use and prosthetics in particular. However, there is also a strand which could be called 'critical posthumanism', in which we might include the Edwards reading, and also the work of Neil Badmington. This area deals primarily with a philosophical approach, such as the deconstruction of 'humanism' – the rethinking of traits such as rationality, autonomy and essentialism. In this sense, critical posthumanism is certainly attempting to rethink human-centricism, but is also not really about technology at all. Critical posthumanism is more about rethinking subjectivity by looking again at the ways in which humanistic ideals still permeate much of our 'common sense' thinking. Thirdly, we might define 'Animal Studies' as another area of posthumanism. Pedersen's paper might be categorised here, but certainly Cary Wolfe has done a lot of work in this area, and he is behind the posthumanities series. Donna Haraway's later work on Companion Species might also be included. This 'field' is precisely about rethinking human-centricism and subjectivity in relation to the environment, and non-human animals. Again, this posthumanism is not really about technology use per se, but technology might be included in the 'non-human'. Some suggested readings if of interest: Badmington, N. (2000). Posthumanism (Basingstoke, Palgrave) Badmington, N. (2004). Alien Chic: Posthumanism and the Other Within. (Abingdon, Routledge). Bostrom, N. (2005). A History of Transhumanist Thought. Journal of Evolution and Technology. 14 (1). Haraway, D. (2003) The Companion Species Manifesto: Dogs, People and Significant Otherness. (Chicago, Prickly Paradigm Press). Miah, A. (2007). Posthumanism: A Critical History. In Medical Enhancements & Posthumanity Gordijn, B. & Chadwick, R. (Eds.) (New York: Routledge) Wolfe, C. (2010a). What is Posthumanism? (Minneapolis, University of Minnesota Press). Wolfe, C. (2010b). Posthumanities. Retrieved: 15 July 2011. http://www.carywolfe.com/post_about.html Excellent points raised here, which I think highlight some of the inconsistencies in the way that the term ‘posthuman’ is used. I think the posthumanist literature can be categorised into three (loose!) areas, which I would say differ quite radically in their underlying philosophical implications, and of course their use of the term.

The ‘cyborg/transhuman’ strand, in which we might include Haraway’s cyborg manifesto, but in which we could certainly include the work of Nick Bostrum and Andy Miah. I would definitely agree with some of the comments here that the transhuman use of the term ‘posthuman’ can be very human-centric, emphasising technology use and prosthetics in particular.

However, there is also a strand which could be called ‘critical posthumanism’, in which we might include the Edwards reading, and also the work of Neil Badmington. This area deals primarily with a philosophical approach, such as the deconstruction of ‘humanism’ – the rethinking of traits such as rationality, autonomy and essentialism. In this sense, critical posthumanism is certainly attempting to rethink human-centricism, but is also not really about technology at all. Critical posthumanism is more about rethinking subjectivity by looking again at the ways in which humanistic ideals still permeate much of our ‘common sense’ thinking.

Thirdly, we might define ‘Animal Studies’ as another area of posthumanism. Pedersen’s paper might be categorised here, but certainly Cary Wolfe has done a lot of work in this area, and he is behind the posthumanities series. Donna Haraway’s later work on Companion Species might also be included. This ‘field’ is precisely about rethinking human-centricism and subjectivity in relation to the environment, and non-human animals. Again, this posthumanism is not really about technology use per se, but technology might be included in the ‘non-human’.

Some suggested readings if of interest:

Badmington, N. (2000). Posthumanism (Basingstoke, Palgrave)

Badmington, N. (2004). Alien Chic: Posthumanism and the Other Within. (Abingdon,
Routledge).

Bostrom, N. (2005). A History of Transhumanist Thought. Journal of Evolution and
Technology. 14 (1).

Haraway, D. (2003) The Companion Species Manifesto: Dogs, People and
Significant Otherness. (Chicago, Prickly Paradigm Press).

Miah, A. (2007). Posthumanism: A Critical History. In Medical Enhancements &
Posthumanity Gordijn, B. & Chadwick, R. (Eds.) (New York: Routledge)

Wolfe, C. (2010a). What is Posthumanism? (Minneapolis, University of Minnesota
Press).

Wolfe, C. (2010b). Posthumanities. Retrieved: 15 July 2011.
http://www.carywolfe.com/post_about.html

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By: Austin Tate http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/2011/11/08/posthuman-connected/#comment-148 Austin Tate Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:49:36 +0000 http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/?p=12147#comment-148 I take that point David. And I think a lot of these authors do like their cute slogans. One of the readings tries to make posthuman be a relationship between humans and the environment. I was thinking about many native societies which have a much better symbiosis between themselves and their environment than we have. I wonder if the bronze age people might have thought of themselves as posthuman compared to the stone ages folks :-) I take that point David. And I think a lot of these authors do like their cute slogans.

One of the readings tries to make posthuman be a relationship between humans and the environment. I was thinking about many native societies which have a much better symbiosis between themselves and their environment than we have.

I wonder if the bronze age people might have thought of themselves as posthuman compared to the stone ages folks :-)

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By: David R http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/2011/11/08/posthuman-connected/#comment-112 David R Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:31:28 +0000 http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/?p=12147#comment-112 Hi Austin, I've read a few papers relating to your #ededc course and found them very interesting. I'm not sure I buy into the 'post-human' term however, as in almost all of the real-world cases relate strongly to human goals and incentives. At the core, ultimately all technology is designed to aid humans at some point along the chain. Whether it is helping the visually impaired tell the time, or enabling people to schedule their diaries better, or to act as a companion - to me it appears to be very human-centric. D Hi Austin,

I’ve read a few papers relating to your #ededc course and found them very interesting. I’m not sure I buy into the ‘post-human’ term however, as in almost all of the real-world cases relate strongly to human goals and incentives.

At the core, ultimately all technology is designed to aid humans at some point along the chain. Whether it is helping the visually impaired tell the time, or enabling people to schedule their diaries better, or to act as a companion – to me it appears to be very human-centric.

D

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By: Austin Tate http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/2011/11/08/posthuman-connected/#comment-111 Austin Tate Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:02:54 +0000 http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/?p=12147#comment-111 Thanks Grace. I have a very strong recollection of visiting an elderly relative in a care home long after she had lost her sight. But she coped very well in a nice area in the Lake District and I am sure had many memories of her earlier time in that very lovely area. But what struck me as we spoke and had a cup of tea with her was when her talking clock spoke out the hours of the time. She perked up and clearly related to this device. I have thought of that a number of times since, especially related to discussions of companion robots for the elderly. But now I think about it I see my our aunty and her speaking clock as one of my first experiences of posthumanism. Thanks Grace.

I have a very strong recollection of visiting an elderly relative in a care home long after she had lost her sight. But she coped very well in a nice area in the Lake District and I am sure had many memories of her earlier time in that very lovely area.

But what struck me as we spoke and had a cup of tea with her was when her talking clock spoke out the hours of the time. She perked up and clearly related to this device.

I have thought of that a number of times since, especially related to discussions of companion robots for the elderly.

But now I think about it I see my our aunty and her speaking clock as one of my first experiences of posthumanism.

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By: Grace Elliott http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/2011/11/08/posthuman-connected/#comment-110 Grace Elliott Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:54:53 +0000 http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/?p=12147#comment-110 Hi Austin, I found this a really interesting read. You have helped make some of the readings more clear. I had reached the same conclusion re the Internet but then had doubts, until now. So succinct, “The Internet becomes an extension of their capabilities.” I like the sound of your future world; having a companion, the ability to remember and being able to keep in touch. What a nice place to live. :) Hi Austin,

I found this a really interesting read. You have helped make some of the readings more clear. I had reached the same conclusion re the Internet but then had doubts, until now. So succinct, “The Internet becomes an extension of their capabilities.”

I like the sound of your future world; having a companion, the ability to remember and being able to keep in touch. What a nice place to live. :)

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By: Austin Tate http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/2011/11/08/posthuman-connected/#comment-109 Austin Tate Mon, 14 Nov 2011 12:28:57 +0000 http://edc11.education.ed.ac.uk/austint/?p=12147#comment-109 See Donna Haraway's Companion Species Manifesto http://www.spurse.org/wiki/images/1/14/Haraway,_Companion_Species_Manifesto.pdf and compare to LIREC Future Robot Companions Project http://lirec.eu/project See Donna Haraway’s Companion Species Manifesto
http://www.spurse.org/wiki/images/1/14/Haraway,_Companion_Species_Manifesto.pdf

and compare to LIREC Future Robot Companions Project
http://lirec.eu/project

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